tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.comments2023-10-05T08:25:13.232-04:00Biblical Evidence for CatholicismDave Armstronghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comBlogger7219125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-5304487441149512002022-02-12T10:42:53.490-05:002022-02-12T10:42:53.490-05:00You mention abcouple of Catholic controversalists,...You mention abcouple of Catholic controversalists, what about Thomas Stapleton, Döllinger held him in high regard in defending the Church's position.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12998119411662400248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-87615187730901701722022-01-27T18:43:46.170-05:002022-01-27T18:43:46.170-05:00emperor casino - Shootercasino
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I agree that Sola Scriptura is not wh...Hello Dave,<br /><br />I agree that Sola Scriptura is not what the Father's have in mind when they speak of Holy Writ, but neither do they have in mind the Roman concept of Tradition in relation to Scripture.<br /><br />Cyril says, "Even to me (archbishop of the mother church of Jerusalem and a Doctor of the Roman church), who tell you these things (teaching catechumens the tenants of the faith, an ex cathedra situation if ever there was one), give not absolute credence (no concept of infallibility here), unless you receive proof of the things which I announce (laity are encouraged and deemed able to judge) from the Divine Scriptures (the Standard)." (Catechetical Lectures 4.17)<br /><br />So, the Scriptures, once established by a higher consensus than any other Christian doctrine, become the authoritative Standard by which any and all teachers and teachings can and must be judged.<br /><br />I agree that during the 300s AD the Canon was still being developed, but the lists given by Patriarchs Athanasius of Alexandria, Cyril of Jerusalem, and Gregory Nazianzus of Constantinople (3 of 5 ancient episcopal sees of the Roman empire) are remarkably consistent and still being referenced 400 years later by folks like John of Damascus (On the Orthodox Faith 4.17).<br /><br />John also says, "It is impossible either to say or fully to understand anything about God beyond what has been divinely proclaimed to us, whether told or revealed, by the sacred declarations of the Old and New Testaments.” (On the Orthodox Faith 1.2)<br /><br />Here we have an idea of oral tradition subordinate to the Scriptures. Least we think this an out of context one off, rewind 700 years and Irenaeus says this.<br /><br />"When, however, (heretics) are refuted from the Scriptures, they turn round and accuse these same Scriptures, as if they were not correct, nor of authority, and that they are ambiguous, and that the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition. For [they allege] that the truth was not delivered by means of written documents, but by word of mouth." (Against Heresies 3.2.1)<br /><br />Orthodox Father John Behr put it best when he said that, "The content of tradition is nothing other than that which is also preserved in a written form, as Scripture - they are not two different sources. Tradition is not the accumulation of various customs, nor does it provide us with access to knowledge necessary for salvation that is not also contained in Scripture. It is the Gnostics, according to Irenaeus, who appeal to tradition for teachings not contained in Scripture." (University of North Carolina, 1998)<br /><br />Thank You,<br /><br />YonatanYonatanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04115380219471308997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-39144224015480714252020-06-06T00:02:12.451-04:002020-06-06T00:02:12.451-04:00DAVE AMSTRONG ES UD UN GANADOR, YO SOY FRANCISCANO...DAVE AMSTRONG ES UD UN GANADOR, YO SOY FRANCISCANO Y HAGO VIDEOS EN VIVO DEBATES QUE DURAN HASTA 12 HORAS ES UN GUSTO DEJARLE MIS COMENTARIOS SALUDOS Y DIOS LO BENDIGA ESPERO QUE RESPONDA PARA PODER CONVERSAR DE ALGUN TEMA EN ESPECIFICOAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11536084338911797863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-51956750570524723472019-09-18T16:27:02.918-04:002019-09-18T16:27:02.918-04:00Like the wise saying goes, "That truth never ...Like the wise saying goes, "That truth never sounded pleasing", But no matter what, this remains a clarion call to all, not to support immoral acts of any kind. joenwaogbu1@blogspot.com/https://www.blogger.com/profile/17271486989614118955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-41214105852385971772019-05-01T13:34:12.283-04:002019-05-01T13:34:12.283-04:00Very nice gospel blog. Awesome article. Keep it up...Very nice <a href="https://www.ibloggospel.com" rel="nofollow">gospel blog</a>. Awesome article. Keep it up! Godssword Edethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17411424490156335261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-31560751846937877722017-02-12T20:28:12.844-05:002017-02-12T20:28:12.844-05:00So, then, is the RC view of justification (as espo...So, then, is the RC view of justification (as espoused here) the same, in effect, as the LCMS? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12488444582509170983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-46868984563292056602016-12-11T10:14:26.773-05:002016-12-11T10:14:26.773-05:00Well, actually he is using "meat" in a ...Well, actually he is using "meat" in a literal sense to refer to his person.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17300028583593446517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-57166406566744893842016-12-11T10:10:57.351-05:002016-12-11T10:10:57.351-05:00The Bible uses the phrase "flesh and blood&qu...The Bible uses the phrase "flesh and blood" to refer to the whole of an individual.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17300028583593446517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-82427358123021141612016-12-11T10:07:45.139-05:002016-12-11T10:07:45.139-05:00Hi.Dave. What was the problem with these followers...Hi.Dave. What was the problem with these followers? I can see two problems, not one. They didnt believe Jesus came from God 2. They took Jesus literaly. Even though Jesus multiple times demostrated he was talking using bread/ meat as a figure.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17300028583593446517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-27274504700051042222016-06-25T19:29:59.191-04:002016-06-25T19:29:59.191-04:00Pls Dave I need this forworded to my mail I will a...Pls Dave I need this forworded to my mail I will appriciate it as it will help in the faith formation we teach in church God bless. Email@ nnaemekamalachi@gmail.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03331033305292786308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-18791663206848715682016-06-11T20:39:10.206-04:002016-06-11T20:39:10.206-04:00White has good diversion tactics in debates when h...White has good diversion tactics in debates when he is caught on a issue, and I find a lot of people who debate him, let him off the hook. <br />Peter diamond challenged him to a debate, and white rejected it, because he said diamond was to radical?! <br />White calling someone radical? <br />Hypocrite comes to mind. Whitecollarapologetics. Comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273498006374934399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-76597164787061869992016-04-05T02:40:44.494-04:002016-04-05T02:40:44.494-04:00I'm sad that we can't see your response to...I'm sad that we can't see your response to the original comment.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00917220694003085364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-81817432266968452192016-01-04T01:50:10.829-05:002016-01-04T01:50:10.829-05:00I would like to ask you, what you think about Sun...I would like to ask you, what you think about Sungenis's works "Not by faith alone, Not by scripture alone and Not by bread alone". Are they worth reading despite the controversy around him?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14431101444064749310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-65040677367675178022015-12-24T14:42:08.571-05:002015-12-24T14:42:08.571-05:00Hi Dave, I have used act 15 as a basis for the exi...Hi Dave, I have used act 15 as a basis for the existence of the infallible councils many times but some prot's responded:"Well, this council is recorded in the bible. Therefore it is valid and infallible while the catholic councils are not recorded there therefore cannot be trusted"./as we know they arbitrarily accept other catholic councils when it fits them/ Mormons used the same argument when we discussed apostolic succession. I pointed out that Judas was replaced and they responded that it doesn t prove anything since this replacement is recorded in the bible, but there is no indication that others were replaced after death as if the bible should keep recording apostolic succession up to this day! <br /><br />"There where Christ is, there the Catholic church"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14431101444064749310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-18308051013497316982015-12-02T12:38:25.845-05:002015-12-02T12:38:25.845-05:00Hi Jaroslav,
Thanks for your kind words. All you ...Hi Jaroslav,<br /><br />Thanks for your kind words. All you can do is appeal to the academic credentials of whatever historian you use. If that is insufficient, then you're not likely to get anywhere debating someone, because they are beyond rational discussion. JWs are so used to misquoting historians that they are usually beyond discussion. You'd have to catch one who is questioning already or not fully persuaded of the JW position.<br /><br />In Him,<br /><br />DaveDave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-80598081949917551752015-12-02T06:11:40.666-05:002015-12-02T06:11:40.666-05:00Hello Dave, I m your big fun from Slovakia! I m re...Hello Dave, I m your big fun from Slovakia! I m really fond of your approach in defending our faith. Your "modus opearandi" is very appealing. I would like to ask you, since I m interested in cults and I prefer historical arguments to biblical (I m sure you are well familiar with impossibility to penetrate "cherry picked" verses of cults as they will just tell you what they/verses/mean and you are supossed to take it for granted) When it comes to deeper debate/doesn t happen very often as most of them will just rather escape/ I m always challenged to prove reliability of historical sources and it often stops my offensive. I have some methods how to deal with it but I would like to know your opinion how to effectivly show that my resources are superior to his. Thank you very much and God bless you and your family. <br /><br />"There where Christ is, there is also the Catholic church."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14431101444064749310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-53801632689222332432015-11-27T09:05:08.426-05:002015-11-27T09:05:08.426-05:00Infant baptism is as biblical as infant circumcisi...Infant baptism is as biblical as infant circumcision. Luther is right. <br /><br />He is also right about Romans 13<br /><br />Evil doers are to be punished by the authorities.<br /><br />We all should agree with that if we are honest with ourselves.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894297600846844164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-32393415345975867012015-11-27T04:27:20.245-05:002015-11-27T04:27:20.245-05:00#46 is false. Completely false. You claimed:
&quo...#46 is false. Completely false. You claimed:<br /><br />"Paul went to Jerusalem specifically to see Peter for fifteen days in the beginning of his ministry (Gal 1:18), and was COMMISSIONED BY Peter, James and John (Gal 2:9) to preach to the Gentiles."<br /><br />Paul was NOT "commissioned by" James or Peter or John to preach the new gospel he got from Christ to the gentiles. Christ called him from his mother's womb as Gal 1 states and Christ gave Paul his commission to preach to the gentiles as part of the encounter Paul had with Christ on the road to Damascus after 3 days of blindness when Christ sent Ananias to restore his sight.<br /><br />Acts 9:15<br />But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine TO BEAR MY NAME BEFORE GENTILES, kings, and the children of Israel.<br /><br />Galatians 1:11-12<br />But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.<br /><br />Also notice that Paul uses DISCOVERY LANGUAGE when writing of his communicating the gospel he preached to James, Peter and John in Jerusalem. Discovery language is in CAPS.<br /><br />Galatians 2:2,7,9<br />And I went up by revelation, and COMMUNICATED TO THEM that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to those who were of reputation, lest by any means I might run, or had run, in vain.<br />7 But on the contrary, when they SAW that the gospel of the uncircumcision had been committed to me, as the gospel of the circumcision was to Peter<br />9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, PERCEIVED the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10590346935973374053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-63958938418973757282015-11-14T19:18:30.979-05:002015-11-14T19:18:30.979-05:00A lot of ad hominem attacks and arguing in bad fai...A lot of ad hominem attacks and arguing in bad faith going on.<br />All people to different extents are subject to their own neuroses, someone can be wrong on some things and right on others, and even the worst people can make true statements. Even if one could know exactly why a person holds certain ideas, it would not prove or disprove those ideas. <br />Investigating Luther's psychology is very interesting and important in discussing Luther as a person. Concluding that his message is errant because of his psychological state is fallacious. <br />That being said I'm sure many of you have sound reasons to disagree with Luther, I just take issue with the leap that somehow his psychology proves or disproves his ideas.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04315649174761113385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-1390083320937633162015-11-02T10:44:27.375-05:002015-11-02T10:44:27.375-05:00I do appreciate your efforts to "even the sco...I do appreciate your efforts to "even the score," and I acknowledge that many Protestant Reformers have as much to answer for as did the worst of their Catholic peers.<br /><br />May I also point out that the Reformers who have the most to answer for and the worst sins on their record can also be described as people who had until just recently been Catholic? Perhaps these initial dissenters who stood in the breach of the controversy- especially those previous to Trent, who most likely would claim to be true Catholics- ought to have a bit of an asterisk, indicating that their sins really ought to count toward both sides.<br /><br />For my money, though, the Peace of Westphalia and the corresponding papal bull Zelo Domus Dei that condemns it is the most important point of inquiry in the whole affair, especially as it pertains to policies of religious tolerance and freedom. In this bull, Innocent X ordered the rulers of Europe to dispense with the Peace of Westphalia and declared it null and void. Also vain and iniquitous, among other things. Every ruler of Europe, Protestant and Catholic alike, completely ignored this bull and acted as if it did not even exist, and the Westphalian nation-state has been the basic unit of global governance ever since.<br /><br />When those European rulers ignored Innocent X and ratified the Peace of Westphalia, it was in that exact moment that the Reformers attained a permanent, irrevocable victory for themselves, for a nascent form of religious freedom, and for their continued existence. And because of Zelo Domus Dei, the Catholic Church put itself on the wrong side of history- and then hoped that the world would forget about it.mmmcountshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12697048970643383902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-39487043565347482002015-11-02T10:41:44.719-05:002015-11-02T10:41:44.719-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.mmmcountshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12697048970643383902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-34725277134137342922015-10-25T18:01:23.677-04:002015-10-25T18:01:23.677-04:00Naw; just in the comments.Naw; just in the comments.Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-36190063290386750532015-10-25T06:27:28.357-04:002015-10-25T06:27:28.357-04:00Are you planning on adding these to the article?Are you planning on adding these to the article?JohnLoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08402557208222135767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-91842026491441589822015-10-14T17:44:57.373-04:002015-10-14T17:44:57.373-04:00Bo and Paul---
While it is true that neither Wesle...Bo and Paul---<br />While it is true that neither Wesley nor Luther believed in the existence of Purgatory that does not mean they did not believe in an intermediate state. I have read very little of Luther's writings but I do know that Wesley accepted the existence of an intermediate state. He read a huge amount of the Eastern Fathers and his theology reflects it; it lends credence to the legend that he was ordained an Orthodox bishop (he wasn't). The Eastern Orthodox likewise deny Purgatory but accept an intermediate state--the Last Judgement hasn't happened yet. The "Good Thief" can be in Paradise, but that does not mean he is in heaven--not yet, at least. Is your eternal destiny fixed at death or at the Last Judgement? If death, why is there a Last Judgement? Since time (as we know it) does not exist in the hereafter--God is always present, not in the past or the future---why wouldn't prayer for the dead be effectual? God is in the present for both you and them at all times. Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06842788135317920228noreply@blogger.com