tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post652942473628659001..comments2023-10-05T08:25:13.232-04:00Comments on Biblical Evidence for Catholicism: Perpetual Virginity of Mary: Acceptance by Prominent Reformed Protestant Theologian Francois TurretinDave Armstronghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-3464560812468278682010-01-08T11:07:13.586-05:002010-01-08T11:07:13.586-05:00Matthew 1:18 and 1:25 prove that the Perpetual Vir...<i>Matthew 1:18 and 1:25 prove that the Perpetual Virginity idea is wrong. (along with all the passages on Jesus' brothers and sisters)</i><br /><br />Apparently T and TF disagree that this "proves" anything. <br /><br /><i>Tertullian knew it was wrong.</i><br />Perhaps he was wrong :)<br /><br /><i>The reason Jesus gives His mother to John at the cross is because John is a believer, and Jesus' brothers were still not believing in Him. John 7:5</i><br /><br />Why do they need to believe anything in order to take care of her?Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750763393428404220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-19815267688841370472010-01-08T09:49:03.425-05:002010-01-08T09:49:03.425-05:00Matthew 1:18 and 1:25 prove that the Perpetual Vir...Matthew 1:18 and 1:25 prove that the Perpetual Virginity idea is wrong. (along with all the passages on Jesus' brothers and sisters)<br /><br />Tertullian knew it was wrong.<br /><br />The reason Jesus gives His mother to John at the cross is because John is a believer, and Jesus' brothers were still not believing in Him. John 7:5Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17824685809003307918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-57722741244120672012010-01-07T18:00:13.483-05:002010-01-07T18:00:13.483-05:00On other hand, there is nothing in Scripture that ...<i>On other hand, there is nothing in Scripture that even hints that Mary remained a virgin after Jesus' birth (just as there is nothing that hints that she was sinless).<br /><br />-TurretinFan<br /></i><br /><a href="http://turretinfan.blogspot.com/2008_09_14_archive.html" rel="nofollow">Turretifan on the PVM</a><br /><br />I am afraid this is the best I could do from your webpage. As to my prejudice that you would come down against the PVM, it seems I am correct. Perhaps it is only your anti-Catholic bias that prevents you from agreeing with Luther and Turretin.<br /><br />If "scripture is silent" on this then a Christian is free to believe what he may, yes?<br /><br />BTW: I have not seen the argument refuted that John 19:26-27 proves that there were no other siblings. I'm sure you've seen this, I'd be interested in your answer.<br /><br /><br /><i><br />26 <br />When Jesus saw his mother 11 and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son." <br />27 <br />Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.</i>Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750763393428404220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-90865303890250320442010-01-07T17:44:37.634-05:002010-01-07T17:44:37.634-05:00Thanks for your thoughts, Dave.Thanks for your thoughts, Dave.Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-50093120591281169962010-01-07T15:33:16.671-05:002010-01-07T15:33:16.671-05:00Can a Catholic judgment be anything but prejudice?...Can a Catholic judgment be anything <i>but</i> prejudice?Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-91181080108028440832010-01-07T15:06:17.526-05:002010-01-07T15:06:17.526-05:00Since you haven't seen my arguments, perhaps y...Since you haven't seen my arguments, perhaps you will recognize that your judgment is prejudice.Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-67347420477894935172010-01-07T10:53:22.143-05:002010-01-07T10:53:22.143-05:00You should prefer the argument which has better su...<i>You should prefer the argument which has better support in terms of evidence and reasoning, not the bigger name.<br /><br />-TurretinFan<br /></i><br /><br />That would be the big T on this one.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750763393428404220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-62961753192020269732010-01-06T18:11:10.115-05:002010-01-06T18:11:10.115-05:00Dave,
It's good to see that you've starte...Dave,<br /><br />It's good to see that you've started reading Turretin.<br /><br />Martin,<br /><br />You should prefer the argument which has better support in terms of evidence and reasoning, not the bigger name.<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-18075970369420316842010-01-06T01:38:51.251-05:002010-01-06T01:38:51.251-05:00Of course he would disagree, lest he appear in any...Of course he would disagree, lest he appear in any remote way, shape or form, Catholic!Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-57129345056477608422010-01-06T00:06:28.714-05:002010-01-06T00:06:28.714-05:00Martin, don't you mean "fallible"? ;...Martin, don't you mean "fallible"? ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07034462951274070391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-86079969798697015142010-01-05T23:10:26.254-05:002010-01-05T23:10:26.254-05:00I assume that TAO disagrees with his namesake. Her...I assume that TAO disagrees with his namesake. Here he will point out that the big T is only a man and hence fallable. My question from the getgo is why would I disagree with the big T and follow the little t.<br />-with my usual phone typosMartinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750763393428404220noreply@blogger.com