tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post3401759322462689547..comments2023-10-05T08:25:13.232-04:00Comments on Biblical Evidence for Catholicism: Was Fr. Raymond Brown a Liberal, Modernist, Heterodox Dissident?Dave Armstronghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-59440857362795253982012-06-09T00:31:54.022-04:002012-06-09T00:31:54.022-04:00Hi.
I just finished reading Fr. Brown's BIRTH...Hi.<br /><br />I just finished reading Fr. Brown's BIRTH OF THE MESSIAH. Frankly, it read like a murder mystery as I read with anticipation every chapter to see where Fr. Brown would go with his research and analysis. Taking the large view, the reader can still be impressed with how the Holy Spirit lead Matthew and Luke to develop such sophisticated and beautiful theologically based infancy narratives of faith. They are even more riveting and powerful to me knowing how much effort went into each word by the evangelists. Clearly the biblical author is proposing to us in the Magnificat, what Mary had on her heart. Clearly, as a very young, very holy, very astute Jewish woman, she was a virgin in love with her faith and particularly close to God. Fr. Brown shows this in his analysis but his method seems to prevent him from asserting these obvious underpinnings of his exegesis. Presumably, as a lecturer, he developed the broader themes of our Catholic faith. Once, in a biblical course covering the Sermon on the Mount, a professor commented that it seems that the bar was set too high for us by Jesus' teaching. His comment caused the classroom to break into an uproar. So much so that the teacher said words to the effect that, "Well, that's my opinion and you are entitled to yours!" I hope Fr. Brown carried his Catholic faith further than my above cited example to his many students.Ray F Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04187325335392458257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-60728952033348287502012-06-09T00:31:52.332-04:002012-06-09T00:31:52.332-04:00Hi.
I just finished reading Fr. Brown's BIRTH...Hi.<br /><br />I just finished reading Fr. Brown's BIRTH OF THE MESSIAH. Frankly, it read like a murder mystery as I read with anticipation every chapter to see where Fr. Brown would go with his research and analysis. Taking the large view, the reader can still be impressed with how the Holy Spirit lead Matthew and Luke to develop such sophisticated and beautiful theologically based infancy narratives of faith. They are even more riveting and powerful to me knowing how much effort went into each word by the evangelists. Clearly the biblical author is proposing to us in the Magnificat, what Mary had on her heart. Clearly, as a very young, very holy, very astute Jewish woman, she was a virgin in love with her faith and particularly close to God. Fr. Brown shows this in his analysis but his method seems to prevent him from asserting these obvious underpinnings of his exegesis. Presumably, as a lecturer, he developed the broader themes of our Catholic faith. Once, in a biblical course covering the Sermon on the Mount, a professor commented that it seems that the bar was set too high for us by Jesus' teaching. His comment caused the classroom to break into an uproar. So much so that the teacher said words to the effect that, "Well, that's my opinion and you are entitled to yours!" I hope Fr. Brown carried his Catholic faith further than my above cited example to his many students.Ray F Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04187325335392458257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-29853937459733284352012-06-09T00:29:52.934-04:002012-06-09T00:29:52.934-04:00Hi.
I just finished reading Fr. Brown's BIRTH...Hi.<br /><br />I just finished reading Fr. Brown's BIRTH OF THE MESSIAH. Frankly, it read like a murder mystery as I read with anticipation every chapter to see where Fr. Brown would go with his research and analysis. Taking the large view, the reader can still be impressed with how the Holy Spirit lead Matthew and Luke to develop such sophisticated and beautiful theologically based infancy narratives of faith. They are even more riveting and powerful to me knowing how much effort went into each word by the evangelists. Clearly the biblical author is proposing to us in the Magnificat, what Mary had on her heart. Clearly, as a very young, very holy, very astute Jewish woman, she was a virgin in love with her faith and particularly close to God. Fr. Brown shows this in his analysis but his method seems to prevent him from asserting these obvious underpinnings of his exegesis. Presumably, as a lecturer, he developed the broader themes of our Catholic faith. Once, in a biblical course covering the Sermon on the Mount, a professor commented that it seems that the bar was set too high for us by Jesus' teaching. His comment caused the classroom to break into an uproar. So much so that the teacher said words to the effect that, "Well, that's my opinion and you are entitled to yours!" I hope Fr. Brown carried his Catholic faith further than my above cited example to his many students.Ray F Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04187325335392458257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-21486403178034375332011-10-25T20:30:44.040-04:002011-10-25T20:30:44.040-04:00Unfortunately, the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur are...Unfortunately, the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur are only as good as the censors who give it.Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-59713220744942347562011-10-25T17:29:56.894-04:002011-10-25T17:29:56.894-04:00I confess I haven't read the whole post, and I...I confess I haven't read the whole post, and I may be misunderstanding some of the arguments, but I just wanted to point out that Fr. Brown's The Death of the Messiah received a "Nihil obstat". It's right there above the copyright date.scootshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14648062432937107093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-53960055704661366672010-04-04T00:49:49.831-04:002010-04-04T00:49:49.831-04:00Hi Christopher,
I'm delighted to hear of your...Hi Christopher,<br /><br />I'm delighted to hear of your spiritual journey.<br /><br />I don't know the answer to your question. But I know that there are a lot of complexities and details at the highest levels of the Church, that we don't know about.Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-86864862819917061592010-04-03T16:51:32.173-04:002010-04-03T16:51:32.173-04:00Hi, Dave,
I don't know if you remember me, bu...Hi, Dave,<br /><br />I don't know if you remember me, but I am the (soon-to-be-former) Reformed Baptist who commented on your site a few times last year. Thanks to the work of the Holy Spirit and many faithful, well-informed Catholics (including you!), I am very close to being reconciled to the Catholic Church! Due to circumstances that I shouldn't discuss here (in wisdom), it won't happen in time for Easter (and I feel sadness about that), but Lord willing, it will happen soon. <br /><br />With that said, I have been reading various Catholic claims about Father Brown and his status in the Church (both as a Biblical scholar, and simply as a Catholic), and I admit that I am troubled. Is it true that he was twice appointed to the Pontifical Biblical Commission *by Popes themselves, personally*-- specifically, Paul VI, in 1972, and John Paul II, in 1996? I read this claim from what appears to be a reputable Catholic source, and if it is true, I find it baffling. Why would two Popes, who were known to be very faithful to historic Church teaching themselves, standing against many heterodox voices in the Church-- why would these two Popes appoint a man of such seeming heterodoxy as Father Brown to the Pontifical Biblical Commission? <br /><br />Moreover, if Father Brown truly was in open, widely known opposition to the historic teaching of the Church on crucial issues, why was he not excommunicated, or at the very least, *not* allowed to have an official Catholic funeral, presides over by Cardinal Mahoney of Los Angeles? I don't understand why such toleration of heterodoxy is allowed, and even, given seeming official approval in the Church today.Christopher Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327013707393086096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-77169359535837920352009-06-23T15:53:31.106-04:002009-06-23T15:53:31.106-04:00If you don't want such postings why is the fac...<i>If you don't want such postings why is the facility available?</i><br /><br />Thanks for alerting me to that. I just changed it.Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-14316859793056424542009-06-23T15:49:36.496-04:002009-06-23T15:49:36.496-04:00Thanks for your prayers.Thanks for your prayers.Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-74678739883314926922009-06-23T15:45:56.486-04:002009-06-23T15:45:56.486-04:00Dave i just saw your main website and just to say ...Dave i just saw your main website and just to say you and your family are in my prayers. I didn't see any of your other pages until just now. I do not want to continue with this for now . Every blessing to you<br />United In Jesus and MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-43053613574550957202009-06-23T15:35:56.076-04:002009-06-23T15:35:56.076-04:00It is you have made a very serious claim..It is th...It is you have made a very serious claim..It is therfore you who must show the evidence ..in which work does he claim the Virgin Birth never happened? Come on if you are so brave..you know you can't produce this evidence because it doesn't exist. If it does then i want the exact publication and where in that publication it can be found. There are some crack pots who make very serious claims that are based on hearsay. So please don't distract with anonymous postings.If you don't want such postings why is the facility available? It is for the best for me at this time that i am anonymous.That's my freedom my decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-30585253961703085582009-06-23T15:03:29.090-04:002009-06-23T15:03:29.090-04:00Refute the lies, then, if you're so sure about...Refute the lies, then, if you're so sure about it. And when did the pope make his statement?<br /><br />I take a very dim view of anonymous "hit and run" posts. I even have an idea of who you are.Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-78103627607350458972009-06-23T14:50:39.620-04:002009-06-23T14:50:39.620-04:00Fr Brown was a Catholic and a wonderful faith fill...Fr Brown was a Catholic and a wonderful faith filled Christian. He was obedient to the church and it is completely a lie to say he didn't believe for example in the virgin Birth..Indeed there are several lies here..you will know them by their fruits...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422857.post-33852779333964581772009-06-23T14:48:19.173-04:002009-06-23T14:48:19.173-04:00"I would be very happy if we had many exegete..."I would be very happy if we had many exegetes like Father Brown" Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com