Friday, January 27, 2012

Calling Mary "Blessed": The Bible Records Four Examples, States That "All Generations" Will Do So, Shows Mary Hailed by an Angel

By Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong (1-27-12)

Luke 1:26, 28 (RSV: non-Catholic version): . . . the angel Gabriel . . . [28] . . . came to her and said, "Hail, O favored one, the Lord is with you!"

Luke 1:41-42, 45 And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit [42] and she exclaimed with a loud cry, "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!" . . . [45] "And blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfilment of what was spoken to her from the Lord."

[Elizabeth is described in 1:6 as "righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless"]

Luke 1:47-48 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, [48] for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed;

Luke 11:27 As he said this, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, "Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts that you sucked!"



Erik Mojica said...

I think that is what John Martignoni would call a "question Protestants can't answer."

Brian said...

Probably because although some of the first half of the Hail Mary is Biblical, asking Mary to intercede for us is something we are not willing to do. Is she in a position to help us?

Dave Armstrong said...

Or won't answer . . .

Of course anyone in heaven can intercede for us and help us (Jer 15:1-2; Rev 5:8; 6:9-10), including angels presenting our prayers to God (Rev 8:3-4).

Those with God in heaven are intensely aware of earthly affairs (Lk 15:10; Heb 12:1). And their love is perfected; therefore they are definitely praying for us: Mary the most of all, being the mother of Jesus. The prayer of the righteous avails much (James 5); therefore those who are in heaven, being perfect, have tremendous power of intercession.

Maroun said...

Brian,if someone is in heaven,it is because of hope and faith which manifested itself in love . And love is the greatest (1cor 13). So if they loved so much on earth,why do you think that they stopped loving in heaven,in glory?
Is your God,the God of Abraham,the God of Isaac,the God of Jacob yes or no?If He is then He is the God of the living not of the dead , and if (and it is ) that those which are in heaven are alive and not dead,then why should they not love us nor pray for us nor want to intercede for us ?You know that them and us are members of the Church which is the body of Christ,whether on earth or in heaven,we are still united by Christ,by the bond of charity and love .
So again,why is it so easy for protestants (which on the one hand insist that there is only one mediator between God and men , Jesus Christ ) and yet they pray for the others and ask the others to pray for them , but yet refuse that the saints in heaven can pray for us?If the answer is , because those in heaven are dead,then your god is not my God,because as i said before , our God is the God of the living and not of the dead,and if they are alive then they can hear us and they do love us and they pray for us,because they want us to be where they are .

S said...

Amen! Well done.

Steven Buehler said...

One Protestant answer (I wuz one) is that the Bible (remembering we're sola scriptura), after Christ's birth, only mentions Mary three times in passing (the wedding at Cana, when Mary and "Jesus' brothers" come for him thinking he's nuts, and the crucifixion), then never mentions her again. The premise is that since the scriptures give her hardly any attention post-nativity, why should they?

Dave Armstrong said...

The NT is Christocentric. But if we want to talk about how many times the Bible mentions something, the Virgin Birth is only mentioned twice, and it is a required belief of almost all Protestants. Scripture Alone is never mentioned. Faith Alone is expressly contradicted in James and never asserted anywhere. The canon of the Bible is never mentioned in the Bible. Etc., etc.

So there is massive internal inconsistency there.

We honor her because she is the Mother of God and the Second Eve.

S said...

All I can tell you is why they don't do it in my experience: because Catholics do.

Most Protestants I know don't really refuse to say it in a conscious way. But they're following the example of the leaders around them.

I've heard a few basically admit that it sounds "too Catholic."


Sebastian said...

And how about giving quotes in a proper context? Luke 11:27-28
(27) And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed [is] the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. (28) But he said, Yea rather, blessed [are] they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Sebastian said...

Another one (Luke 8:19-21):
"(19) Then came to him [his] mother and his brethren, and could not come at him for the press. (20) And it was told him [by certain] which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee. (21) And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it."

Don't get me wrong. I do think she has been blessed among the women, but she had been nothing more than a faithfull servant of God and once her role has been fulfilled, then she didn't matter anymore. We may thing that she deserves to be treated as a great Mother, because she gave birth to the Son of God, but this point of view is very common in all mythologies, but not in the Bible. Thinking like humans we can be deceived: Mark 8:33:
"(33) But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men."