By Dave Armstrong (6-1-11)
From: Robert Sungenis Responds to a Patron Regarding Criticism of John Paul II (May 2011). Read it and weep . . . All words that follow are Bob's own, from this pathetic article.
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The very things that you, as a Catholic, would have vehemently condemned if a Protestant had done them, now excuse them [sic] because a pope does them.
. . . you keep silent about the evils JP2 perpetrated in his pontificate.
Is the pedophile/homosexual scandal true? These are things that JP2 perpetuated and or ignored, as the case may be.
I complain about the blatant transgressions against our Catholic tradition and morals. I listed about two dozen of them that occurred in the pontificate of JP2.
JP2 knew of the scandals. He simply chose to ignore them and blame the media for making false accusations.
I’m not going to thwart God’s program by calling a bad guy a good guy.
. . . the poor pontificate of JP2 . . .
He went his own way and ignored much of the tradition before him.
I doubt the veracity of the miracle, and I doubt the veracity of the people doing the investigation. . . . It is blasphemous against heaven to claim that heaven is giving its approval of John Paul’s beatification by such a flimsy “miracle.”
Don’t try to escape the problems with JP2’s beatification by creating a domino effect for the whole Church. JP2 is the anomaly, not the Catholic Church at large.
All I’m concerned about is the attempt to make a saint out of someone who had one of the worst pontificates in regards to doctrine and morals in Catholic history. As regards your recounting of all the suffering John Paul II experienced, so be it. One might think that with all that suffering it would have motivated JP2 to be more obedient to Catholic tradition and be more motivated to clean up the Church. But instead of motivating him to be more obedient to God, he went the other way, allowing pagans to pray to their false gods and allowing homosexuals and pedophiles to run rampant through our Church.
I didn’t see JP2 correct any of his sins. I saw him exonerate bishops and priests who were known to be homosexuals and pedophiles right up to the very end of his pontificate.
My prediction is that JP2 will not be canonized. His beatification will sit on the shelf for centuries, which is not abnormal. Heaven will simply not give its credence to canonizing such a wayward pope as JP2. . . . we are only suffering the punishment heaven has meted out for John Paul II’s idolatry.
The problem was that quite often JP2 didn’t even pay attention to his own encyclicals. He said one thing and did another.
. . . there is also danger with a pope who decides to do things his own way and forsake the Catholic tradition. . . . you need to be just as cautious about what the pope is telling you, especially when that pope (as is the case of JP2) decided he isn’t going to take the papal oath to protect the Church.
The pope is supposed to be a servant of tradition; the 263 popes that went before him; not a neophilist.
More calumnies (some responses of mine bracketed and in blue):
Response to Dave Armstrong Regarding Universal Salvation and Hell in the Teaching of John Paul II (11 May 2011):
I find it interesting that, of all the doctrinal and moral aberrations I’ve listed about John Paul II, he chooses only two issues that he thinks he can defend. Catholic apologists routinely sidestep defending John Paul II’s telling pagans to pray to their false gods; the sex scandals; the money scandals; the placement of wayward clerics; altar girls, and all the rest.