When Catholics merely assert the dogma of papal infallibility, stated in its final form at Vatican I, many Protestants see that as automatically outrageous and arrogant and triumphalistic. It is not charitable ecumenism to demand that the other guy has to give up the very dogmas that his belief-system (by its very nature) will not allow him to give up. If a Catholic has to renounce the papacy as he understands it to even be granted a seat at the "ecumenical table" and "respectable discussion" (so that he is not "arrogant" and "triumphalistic") then obviously it is impossible for an orthodox Catholic to participate in such a venture. It would be impossible from the outset, since the Protestant has presupposed a specifically Protestant understanding of ecclesiology that Catholics cannot accept.
That would be like our saying that Calvinists have to give up unconditional election and irresistible grace because they are outrageous and make God the author of evil. Once they do that, then they prove they're not arrogant and we can sit down and talk. They have to give up their Calvinist distinctives that are precious to them and non-negotiable (as at the Synod of Dort). The critique of so-called Catholic arrogance is, then, arguably at least as arrogant (if not in intention then in impression or effect) as the view it seeks to critique.
No; this is, of course, unacceptable. I would say, "I understand that you accept TULIP and I would like to learn more about why you believe that, and I accept you as my brother in Christ, and respect your right to have that view and understand that you have many reasons for holding it and that it has been sadly caricatured by those of us who disbelieve it. Now let's sit and talk and try to understand each other better and seek to discover things we have in common that we may not have been aware of. Let's learn about each others' deeply held beliefs, as fellow followers of our Lord Jesus, because charity demands that I give attention to and show respect for what is very important to my brother in Christ." The reader need only substitute the papacy for TULIP to see my point.
Vatican I wasn't even (technically) "ultramontane" in its conclusions -- truth be told. The ultramontanes (people like Cardinal Manning) wanted an even broader range of papal infallibility, to include virtually everything the pope said. What was passed was quite a moderate form of papal infallibility. The "moderates" won the day, not the radicals. And that was precisely because they took a realistic view of history: the Honorius and Vigilius and Liberius incidents, for example, made a broader definition impossible because it would not be true to the facts of history.
For Catholics, the papacy as presently defined is non-negotiable. It is a dogma. That's simply how it works in Catholicism. But we're not the only ones with dogmas. Everybody has non-negotiables.
Nor does a non-Catholic calling it "unorthodox Catholicism" make it so, as they are not the ones to determine these things. They don't determine our orthodoxy anymore than we determine theirs.
Furthermore, Vatican II greatly stressed conciliarism, and even laymen. This is how it works with councils: one will stress one aspect of the Catholic tradition (while not denying others), and the next one will stress another aspect. So Vatican II developed conciliar infallibility more than it had ever been, without in the least de-emphasizing papal infallibility. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Of course a Catholic in good standing can disagree with the pope, if they do it in the proper way and not in a frivolous fashion. I disagreed with the pope about the Iraqi War. I can disagree on whether he acted prudently or wisely, such as when he kissed the Koran. I can even believe (within orthodox Catholic assumptions) that a pope can teach heresy and personally be a heretic, as long as he doesn't proclaim it infallibly and oblige the faithful to believe it. Cardinal Newman wrote about the true Catholic position, over against Ultramontanism:
To submit to the Church means this, first you will receive as de fide whatever she proposes de fide . . . You are not called on to believe de fide any thing but what has been promulgated as such -- You are not called on to exercise an internal belief of any doctrine which Sacred Congregations, Local Synods, or particular Bishops, or the Pope as a private Doctor, may enunciate. You are not called upon ever to believe or act against the moral law, at the command of any superior.
(The Letters and Diaries of John Henry Newman [LD], XX, 545 [in 1863], edited by Charles Stephen Dessain (London: 1961-1972), in Ian Ker, John Henry Newman: A Biography, Oxford University Press, 1988 [764 pages], 530-531)
In his diary, Newman wrote in 1870, after the definition was passed (which he had opposed, as an "inopportunist") that all Catholic theologians had always held:
. . . that what the Pope said ex cathedra, was true when the Bishops had received it -- what has been passed, is to the effect that what he determines ex cathedra is true independently of the reception by the Bishops -- but nothing has been passed as to what is meant by 'ex cathedra' -- and this falls back to the Bishops and the Church to determine quite as much as before. Really therefore nothing has been passed of consequence. Again, the degree is linked to 'faith and morals' -- whereas what the Ultra party wished to pass was political principles.
(LD, XXV, 219, in Ker, ibid., 658)
Biographer Ian Ker continues:
Closer study of the definition showed that the Council had only taught the moderate view of infallibility which Ryder, for example, had maintained against Ward . . .
There was no doubting the Ultramontane party was deeply disappointed that the definition could not be used, in particular, to enforce rigorously the Syllabus of Errors . . .
As usual, too, Newman refused to ignore what was true and acceptable in a development which he deplored for other reasons. Disgust with Ultramontane excesses should not be allowed to obscure the original, valid, Ultramontanism of, for example, Montalembert, who had opposed Gallicanism as allowing the state to interfere with the spiritual independence of the Church. The freedom of the local Church from political domination depended on Rome's central authority.
. . . He was sure that it was divine intervention which had prevented the extreme Ultramontanes, including the Pope, from getting through a much stronger definition. It was a pity that Dollinger and others persisted in exaggerating what actually had been defined . . .
The Ultramontanes had not achieved all that they wanted at the Council.
[Newman thought] It was simply playing into the hands of the extremists to exaggerate the terms of the definition, which in fact had been a 'defeat' for the Ultramontanes.
(Ker, ibid., 658-660, 662, 665; for the last statement, see LD, XXV, 438)
Newman's thought was a hundred years ahead of its time, anticipating the emphases of Vatican II (which is why he is often regarded as the "father" of that Council):
. . . in a letter of March 1870, . . . he pointed out that however infallible the Pope might turn out to be, his pronouncements would still require interpretation. The same was true of a Council's definitions, which -- just as 'lawyers explain acts of Parliament' -- had to be explained by theologians. Obvious as the fact might be, the conclusion to be drawn from it had serious consequences for the fantasies of extreme Ultramontanism. 'Hence, I have never been able to see myself that the ultimate decision rests with any but the general Catholic intelligence' . . . (Later, in the Letter to the Duke of Norfolk, he was careful to emphasize that he simply meant that the whole Church ratified a definition as 'authentic', not that the 'subsequent reception' actually entered into the 'necessary conditions' of a dogmatic decision.) In the same private letter he also noted that abstract definitions could not 'determine particular fact': the doctrine, for example, that there was no salvation outside the Church did not apply to people in 'invincible ignorance' . . .
He continued to insist after the definition that 'the voice of the Schola Theologorum, of the whole Church diffusive' would 'in time make itself heard', and that 'Catholic instincts and ideas' would eventually 'assimilate and harmonize' it into the wider context of Catholic belief . . .
In defining doctrines, Popes and Councils enjoyed an 'active infallibility', but more was involved in the infallibility of the Church than that, since a 'passive infallibility' belonged to the whole Catholic people, who had to determine the force and meaning of these doctrinal definitions . . .
(Ker, ibid., 681-682, citing Difficulties of Anglicans, II, 372; LD, XXV, 71, 284, 447; XXVII, 338)
Newman practically prophesied Vatican II:
In the event, however, of 'a false interpretation' of the infallibility definition, then 'another Leo will be given us for the occasion'. The reference is to Pope St. Leo's Council of Chalcedon, which, 'without of course touching the definition' of the preceding Council of Ephesus, 'trimmed the balance of doctrine by completing it'. The warning is an exact prophecy of the theology of 'creeping infallibility' that came in the wake of the First Vatican Council, and of the Second Vatican Council, which Pope John XXIII convoked nearly a hundred years later.
(Ker, ibid., 683-684, citing Difficulties of Anglicans, II, 307)
Ker continues to describe Newman's orthodox position, over against the excesses of the Old Catholic "left" and the Ultramontanist "right":
As regards the relation between history and theology, Newman is unequivocal in his criticism of Dollinger and his followers . . . 'I think them utterly wrong in what they have done and are doing; and, moreover, I agree as little in their view of history as in their acts.' It is not a matter of questioning the accuracy of their historical knowledge, but 'their use of the facts they report' and 'that special stand-point from which they view the relations existing between the records of History and the communications of Popes and Councils'. Newman sums up the essence of the problem: 'They seem to me to expect from History more than History can furnish.' The opposite was true of the Ultramontanes, who simply found history an embarrassing inconvenience.
. . . Newman's carefully nuanced judgement mocks both the intransigence of Pio Nono and the inconsistency of a politician like Gladstone.
(Ker, ibid., 684-685, citing Difficulties of Anglicans, II, 309, 311-312)
As for the recent emphasis on conciliar infallibility and the normative relationship of popes and councils and bishops and laypeople working together, here are some statements from the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
880 When Christ instituted the Twelve, "he constituted [them] in the form of a college or permanent assembly, at the head of which he placed Peter, chosen from among them." Just as "by the Lord's institution, St. Peter and the rest of the apostles constitute a single apostolic college, so in like fashion the Roman Pontiff, Peter's successor, and the bishops, the successors of the apostles, are related with and united to one another."
Things got a little out of balance after Vatican I (itself a defeat of radical Ultramontanism), just as they do after virtually all Councils. Dollinger went too far in one direction, and the Ultramontanes (who wanted a much broader definition) in the other. Then Vatican II came around to balance things, and to emphasize collegiality and laity. The liberals misunderstood that and tried to use it as a bogus excuse for liberal dissent, when in fact, the Council sanctioned no such thing. And the so-called "traditionalists" reject it altogether because they are not in tune with the Mind of the Church, and have a spirit of disobedience, just as Dollinger did, and as the liberal "Catholics" do. So everything works out in the long run.
889 In order to preserve the Church in the purity of the faith handed on by the apostles, Christ who is the Truth willed to confer on her a share in his own infallibility. By a "supernatural sense of faith" the People of God, under the guidance of the Church's living Magisterium, "unfailingly adheres to this faith."
Vatican II further clarified and developed Vatican I and made it even more clear that the pope (though he is the head and exercises jurisdiction and a "veto power") is not an "absolute monarch." He always works together with bishops and Councils and the laypeople. The definition of the Assumption of Mary, for example, was made only after considering many thousands of letters from the laypeople, who overwhelmingly favored the definition.
One has to look to people like Luther and Calvin to find "autocrats" and arbitrary pronouncements divorced from history, doctrinal precedent, and the larger community. Luther simply claimed to be a sort of prophet; whoever disagreed with him disagreed with God. There is your "absolute monarch" -- even Pius IX never went nearly that far. He couldn't even get passed through Vatican I his own preference for a broader definition of papal infallibility. Some power . . . Does anyone think Luther would have stood being overrruled by some council of his underlings? Not a chance . . .
To define one particular does not necessitate ignoring all other particulars. The subject here was the papacy. This would be as inaccurate as saying that the Council of Chalcedon's emphasis on the Hypostatic Union meant that it denied the role of the Holy Spirit in the Holy Trinity.
The pope is a servant of the tradition. He has no power to overturn that tradition, and if he tried, he would be opposed (and possibly deposed), and this would be a perfectly Catholic thing. John XXII is a perfect example. He tried to make a false statement about the Beatific Vision, was widely and strenuously opposed, and withdrew his position.
It is not possible in the Catholic system to reverse an ex cathedra dogmatic pronouncement. But, as Newman pointed out, its interpretation and application allow considerable leeway. That is what we can realistically work with. If non-Catholics demand that we reverse such dogmatic pronouncements, then they have ruled out ecumenical discussions with us before we even begin.
Uploaded by Dave Armstrong on 29 March 2004.